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		<title>By: brocadegoddess</title>
		<link>http://brocadegoddess.wordpress.com/quilted-petticoat/#comment-143</link>
		<dc:creator>brocadegoddess</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Apr 2009 14:27:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hello Liza,

Um, no I never have been thus honoured.</description>
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<p>Um, no I never have been thus honoured.</p>
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		<title>By: Liza</title>
		<link>http://brocadegoddess.wordpress.com/quilted-petticoat/#comment-139</link>
		<dc:creator>Liza</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Apr 2009 11:22:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The style of writing is quite familiar to me. Did you write guest posts for other bloggers?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The style of writing is quite familiar to me. Did you write guest posts for other bloggers?</p>
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		<title>By: brocadegoddess</title>
		<link>http://brocadegoddess.wordpress.com/quilted-petticoat/#comment-119</link>
		<dc:creator>brocadegoddess</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Apr 2009 21:12:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Lizzie, thanks for your comment.

I&#039;m not sure I quite understand what you&#039;re describing.  When you refer to working skirt panel by skirt panel, do you mean each panel is quilted separately and then all of them attached together?  Or that the batting was added to the back as they came to each repeat?
How &#039;bout I just tell you what I&#039;ve read and observed, and maybe it works out to almost the same thing anyway.
From what I understand the outer fabric layer and the wool or linen backing were each made up into the final length/width of the petticoat.  The wool batting was sanwiched between the two layers, it was mounted into a frame, then the quilting was done through all layers from the underside.  The original examples I&#039;ve examined support this method: the top silk and wool lining layers were pieced independantly of each other, and the quilting was through all layers and was unbroken at the seams except for the centre back where it was sewn up into the tube that made it a skirt.  

However, it may be that the wool batting was added in with each repeat of the quilted pattern, or at other intervals.

I would hazaard to guess instead that there was not just one way to do this.  When it comes to making clothing there is rarely ever only one way to do something, and methods certainly change over time.  So perhaps at one shop they decided to card and lay on enough wool batting to do the whole thing, at another shop they didn&#039;t.  Then as now, life and work were next to never black and white.

Is this something like what you were looking for?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Lizzie, thanks for your comment.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m not sure I quite understand what you&#8217;re describing.  When you refer to working skirt panel by skirt panel, do you mean each panel is quilted separately and then all of them attached together?  Or that the batting was added to the back as they came to each repeat?<br />
How &#8217;bout I just tell you what I&#8217;ve read and observed, and maybe it works out to almost the same thing anyway.<br />
From what I understand the outer fabric layer and the wool or linen backing were each made up into the final length/width of the petticoat.  The wool batting was sanwiched between the two layers, it was mounted into a frame, then the quilting was done through all layers from the underside.  The original examples I&#8217;ve examined support this method: the top silk and wool lining layers were pieced independantly of each other, and the quilting was through all layers and was unbroken at the seams except for the centre back where it was sewn up into the tube that made it a skirt.  </p>
<p>However, it may be that the wool batting was added in with each repeat of the quilted pattern, or at other intervals.</p>
<p>I would hazaard to guess instead that there was not just one way to do this.  When it comes to making clothing there is rarely ever only one way to do something, and methods certainly change over time.  So perhaps at one shop they decided to card and lay on enough wool batting to do the whole thing, at another shop they didn&#8217;t.  Then as now, life and work were next to never black and white.</p>
<p>Is this something like what you were looking for?</p>
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		<title>By: Lizzie</title>
		<link>http://brocadegoddess.wordpress.com/quilted-petticoat/#comment-118</link>
		<dc:creator>Lizzie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Apr 2009 19:44:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is lovely work! I&#039;m glad the exhibition&#039;s worked out so well - wish I could have got over there to see it.

Hope you won&#039;t mind if I ask questions about the quilting process? How did you arrange the layers when you quilted? Did you put satin over batting over wool lining and quilt through all the layers together?

I remember reading somewhere once that they worked these skirt panel by skirt panel and they didn&#039;t have batting in rolls as such then. According to this source they carded the wool, arranged it bit by bit on the back of the satin, pressed it lightly to make it hold together enough to tack it in place on the edges of the silk panel. Then put the frame over this, tacked the whole petticoat panel into the frame and somehow turned the whole shebang over. I can&#039;t think where I read this but it sounds counter-intuitive to me. Working panel by panel, fine. Carding wool onto the back of the panel then plopping the frame on top, fixing it there then turning it over? Not so sensible.

But is this true? What did you see when you looked at originals. How did you do it?

Sorry to have written so much on so very little! Lizzie.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is lovely work! I&#8217;m glad the exhibition&#8217;s worked out so well &#8211; wish I could have got over there to see it.</p>
<p>Hope you won&#8217;t mind if I ask questions about the quilting process? How did you arrange the layers when you quilted? Did you put satin over batting over wool lining and quilt through all the layers together?</p>
<p>I remember reading somewhere once that they worked these skirt panel by skirt panel and they didn&#8217;t have batting in rolls as such then. According to this source they carded the wool, arranged it bit by bit on the back of the satin, pressed it lightly to make it hold together enough to tack it in place on the edges of the silk panel. Then put the frame over this, tacked the whole petticoat panel into the frame and somehow turned the whole shebang over. I can&#8217;t think where I read this but it sounds counter-intuitive to me. Working panel by panel, fine. Carding wool onto the back of the panel then plopping the frame on top, fixing it there then turning it over? Not so sensible.</p>
<p>But is this true? What did you see when you looked at originals. How did you do it?</p>
<p>Sorry to have written so much on so very little! Lizzie.</p>
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		<title>By: brocadegoddess</title>
		<link>http://brocadegoddess.wordpress.com/quilted-petticoat/#comment-77</link>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Nov 2008 04:05:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, I&#039;ve done the same thing as far as making a paper pattern and poking holes.  I also tried using cinnamon in some loose weave fabric (I&#039;d heard about cinnamon from somewhere).  The problem was that it didn&#039;t want to adhere to the fabric - being a silk satin it&#039;s too slippery a weave/surface for the cinnamon.  I tried paprika after that (it&#039;s a brigher colour), but it didn&#039;t work any better.
So I&#039;ve decided to just keep going with my fading fabric marker.  According to what I have since found out (can&#039;t remember where at the moment, bad historical/scholarly blogger!) at the time they used powdered ink, I wonder if stuck to satin better.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, I&#8217;ve done the same thing as far as making a paper pattern and poking holes.  I also tried using cinnamon in some loose weave fabric (I&#8217;d heard about cinnamon from somewhere).  The problem was that it didn&#8217;t want to adhere to the fabric &#8211; being a silk satin it&#8217;s too slippery a weave/surface for the cinnamon.  I tried paprika after that (it&#8217;s a brigher colour), but it didn&#8217;t work any better.<br />
So I&#8217;ve decided to just keep going with my fading fabric marker.  According to what I have since found out (can&#8217;t remember where at the moment, bad historical/scholarly blogger!) at the time they used powdered ink, I wonder if stuck to satin better.</p>
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		<title>By: LadyInoui</title>
		<link>http://brocadegoddess.wordpress.com/quilted-petticoat/#comment-74</link>
		<dc:creator>LadyInoui</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Nov 2008 02:30:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t know if anyone ever answered your question, but Williamsburg has an entire display of 18th century petticoats on display at their museum.  I visited it this weekend, and they had a video showing the quilting process.  The Mantua Maker poked holes in the paper pattern, and then used some sort of cheese cloth filled with cinnamon (it doesn&#039;t stain), and patted it over the paper pattern.  This left small little dots that she then used as her sewing guide.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t know if anyone ever answered your question, but Williamsburg has an entire display of 18th century petticoats on display at their museum.  I visited it this weekend, and they had a video showing the quilting process.  The Mantua Maker poked holes in the paper pattern, and then used some sort of cheese cloth filled with cinnamon (it doesn&#8217;t stain), and patted it over the paper pattern.  This left small little dots that she then used as her sewing guide.</p>
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		<title>By: brocadegoddess</title>
		<link>http://brocadegoddess.wordpress.com/quilted-petticoat/#comment-71</link>
		<dc:creator>brocadegoddess</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Oct 2008 05:52:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That&#039;s pretty cool, what a gorgeous petticoat it must have been!  It&#039;s a pity they&#039;re splitting up the pieces though, that kind of cheeses me off.  I&#039;d be interested to see the actual backing too, I haven&#039;t yet seen or read of any 18th century quilted petticoats being backed with what we now know as muslin.  

Where/how do you find this stuff?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That&#8217;s pretty cool, what a gorgeous petticoat it must have been!  It&#8217;s a pity they&#8217;re splitting up the pieces though, that kind of cheeses me off.  I&#8217;d be interested to see the actual backing too, I haven&#8217;t yet seen or read of any 18th century quilted petticoats being backed with what we now know as muslin.  </p>
<p>Where/how do you find this stuff?</p>
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		<title>By: Julia</title>
		<link>http://brocadegoddess.wordpress.com/quilted-petticoat/#comment-70</link>
		<dc:creator>Julia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Oct 2008 05:20:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Check this out:
http://www.vintagemartini.com/clothing/victorian/pages/7910.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Check this out:<br />
<a href="http://www.vintagemartini.com/clothing/victorian/pages/7910.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.vintagemartini.com/clothing/victorian/pages/7910.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: brocadegoddess</title>
		<link>http://brocadegoddess.wordpress.com/quilted-petticoat/#comment-62</link>
		<dc:creator>brocadegoddess</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Oct 2008 15:10:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That&#039;s an excellent question Cynthia, and I wish I had the answer for you!  Thus far I have not come across any specs with regards to the frames used for quilting, I just know that they used them.

I am, unfortunately, not even using a frame....yet.  I haven&#039;t been able to get a hold of a wooden one - could I maybe borrow your&#039;s? ;o)  If one thinks logically about it, people in the 18th century sought practicality and efficiency the same way production does today.  So, if you find your frame to be a good size and method, I would hazard to guess it&#039;s likely they used something rather similar.

If you happen to find the answer to your question before I do, please pass it on!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That&#8217;s an excellent question Cynthia, and I wish I had the answer for you!  Thus far I have not come across any specs with regards to the frames used for quilting, I just know that they used them.</p>
<p>I am, unfortunately, not even using a frame&#8230;.yet.  I haven&#8217;t been able to get a hold of a wooden one &#8211; could I maybe borrow your&#8217;s? ;o)  If one thinks logically about it, people in the 18th century sought practicality and efficiency the same way production does today.  So, if you find your frame to be a good size and method, I would hazard to guess it&#8217;s likely they used something rather similar.</p>
<p>If you happen to find the answer to your question before I do, please pass it on!!!</p>
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		<title>By: Cynthia Kruitbosch</title>
		<link>http://brocadegoddess.wordpress.com/quilted-petticoat/#comment-61</link>
		<dc:creator>Cynthia Kruitbosch</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Oct 2008 04:32:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What kind of frame would you be using - I have a wooden frame that rolls the material out from the bottom and over the top as I work on my porject.  My frame is +/- 3 feet wide -is this what they would have used for quilting?  (or something similar)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What kind of frame would you be using &#8211; I have a wooden frame that rolls the material out from the bottom and over the top as I work on my porject.  My frame is +/- 3 feet wide -is this what they would have used for quilting?  (or something similar)</p>
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